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. george w. bush unsigned a treaty. the nuclear treaty. the united states believes it's exceptional, meaning everybody except us. meaning that if other nations can be bound by treaties that's great. it restricts what they can do. since the united states considers itself to be the gawrn or -- gawrnter of freedom, security, et. cetera, they want to be believe they need to be able to do anything they want in order to, you know, keep us all the safe. >> host: what are the numbers now about land mines and since you have been involved how many have gone away. how much money is spent? who is selling them around the world? >> guest: goodness. i should looked it up. i haven't worked on the campaign on the daily basis since early 2000. i can tell you there are 161 nations that are part of the treaty. all of the western hemisphere, except the united states and cuba. all of nato, except the united states. which is totally mind boggling. especially when the u.s. said it needs land mines to protect the allies. there have been no no recorded fail of land mines. even country like china and russia w
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